PostgreSQL And Academia

Recently I’ve been thinking a lot about relationships between the PostgreSQL community and the DB research community. To put it bluntly – these two communities do not talk to each other!

There are many reasons why I am concerned about this situation. First, I consider myself belonging to both of these communities. Even if right now I am 90% in industry, I can’t write off my academic past and writing a scientific paper with the hope of being accepted to the real database conference is something which appeals to me.

Second, I want to have quality candidates for the database positions when I have them. The problem is more than scientists do not speak at the Postgres conferences, and Postgres developers do not speak at the academic conferences. The bigger problem is that for many CS students, their academic research and practical experience to not intersect at all! They study some cool algorithms, and then they practice their SQL on MySQL databases, which as I have already mentioned multiple times, lacks so many basic database features, that it hardly can be considered a database!

If these students practiced using PostgreSQL, they would have a real full-scale object-relational database, not a “light” version, but a real thing, which supports tons of index types, data types, constraints, has procedural language, and the list can go on and on.

It is especially upsetting to see this disconnect since so many database researches were completed on Postgres, for Postgres, with the help of Postgres; R-trees and GIST indexes, to name a couple. Also, the SIGMOD Test of Time Award in 2018 was given to the paper “Serializable isolation for snapshot databases”, which was implemented in Postgres.

I know the answer to the question “why they do not talk?” Researches do not want to talk at the Postgres conferences, because those are not scientific conferences, and the participation in these conferences will not result in any publication. Postgres developers do not want to talk at the CS conferences, because they do not like to write long papers :), and also, even if they do submit something, their papers often are rejected as “not having any scientific value.”

I know the answer. But I do not like it :). So maybe – we can talk about it?!

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2 responses to “PostgreSQL And Academia

  1. This happens a lot, different groups who can learn from each other being so territorially inward.

  2. Henrietta Dombrovskaya

    This is true! But I am going to change it. I am not a person who takes “no” for an answer, neither I am a person who complains without taking actions. Since you are one of few people, who reads both of my blogs, you might have figured that out already :).

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